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Post by ralph on Jun 7, 2007 12:59:59 GMT -5
I've been looking at the photo in TLN of "Young Lindsay in Summer Costume," and comparing it to the photo on the web site of Emile, Lindsay, and Jim. Emile and Jim I can see, but the person in the middle, identified as Lindsay doesn't resemble the Lindsay in the book.
The young Lindsay in the book is stocky, broad shouldered, and square chinned, whereas the man identified as Lindsay in the web photo appears to be slim, with rather narrow features. I did note that in "changes" on the web site, the people have been re identified. Has this question come up before? I suppose that Lindsay could have grown to near Jim's height, and slimmed down. In another photo in the book with Lindsay holding two sets of snowshoes, one set said to be seven feet long, Lindsay's height looks to be about 5' 6''.
Can anyone with inside info clarify this for me? Thanks!
I really do enjoy this web site, and thank everyone for taking part.
Ralph
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Post by traplines on Jun 7, 2007 17:29:33 GMT -5
Hi Ralph
I too felt the same as you. In June 2006 I forwarded this pic to Mary Sue who is Jim Vanderbeck's daughter for verification on who was who and even she was not certain that it was Linday in the middle. I pasted her letter to me so you could have a look. Maybe someone else might know how we could verify this.
Hi Russ:
That picture seems to be all over. I just answered an e-mail with the same question as yours.
I know that Dad is on the far right, Grandpa Emile is on the far left, that would only leave Uncle Lindsay to be in the middle but as I recall Uncle Lindsay was quite a bit heavier than that, and maybe a little shorter. He was a lot shorter than Dad and as you can see in the picture there isn't that much difference. Hope this helps. I will be in touch soon, holidays coming up with some well needed downtime for myself.
Mary Sue
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Post by ralph on Jun 7, 2007 18:34:29 GMT -5
Russ,
Thanks for your input on this question, and, especially thanks to Mary Sue for her taking her time to add some on the spot knowledge. If not Lindsay, then who? Perhaps just a friend, or Emile' nephew? Then what of Lindsay at the time the photo was taken? Jim looks to be in his late twenties, or, date wise, just after the war.
Ralph
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Post by BRIAN on Jun 8, 2007 7:34:50 GMT -5
Russ, Thanks for your input on this question, and, especially thanks to Mary Sue for her taking her time to add some on the spot knowledge. If not Lindsay, then who? Perhaps just a friend, or Emile' nephew? Then what of Lindsay at the time the photo was taken? Jim looks to be in his late twenties, or, date wise, just after the war. Ralph Just a quick, shot from the hip thought....."Joe Leake aka Tom Spence"  |
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Post by Matt (admin) on Jun 8, 2007 15:24:40 GMT -5
The Joe Leake character was native, but we don't now if Tom Spence, on whom he was based, was native or white. At any rate, the guy in the photo doesn't look native to me.
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Post by ralph on Jun 10, 2007 18:29:01 GMT -5
Matt,
I agree, the "Man in the Middle," doesn't appear to be native. How about Ike Mackie, who purchased the Vanderbeck business in 1960, or his son. The picture of Ike's son in the newspaper article, taken with his mother, shows a tall, slim man.
By the way, the photo under discussion was probably was taken in front of the Vanderbeck family cabin on Waba Lake. If you look closely, the cracks in the logs used as the window and door headers, and the log above it, are the same in both photos, the one in TLN, with Jim sitting on the front platform, and the one with Emile, Lindsay?, and Jim on this site.
Ralph
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Post by traplines on Jun 10, 2007 22:44:28 GMT -5
Ralph you just have too much time on your hands. I think your right, it looks like the same cabin. It's funny none of us picked up on that. There was some discussion on what the sign reads and I guess we were too busy trying to figure out who was who in the pic. Good eye.
Russ
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Post by Matt (admin) on Jun 11, 2007 0:14:11 GMT -5
Great insight, Ralph. And great observation too!
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Post by BRIAN on Jun 11, 2007 9:55:59 GMT -5
Give Ralph his trailname.... "Window-Eye",  |
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Post by Matt (admin) on Jun 11, 2007 16:15:55 GMT -5
Hmm....Crackspotter?  ;D ;D |
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Post by ralph on Jun 11, 2007 16:33:00 GMT -5
Guys, Call me anything you want, but don't call me late for dinner!
Whoops! Gotta go, somebody's callin' my name!
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Post by terry on Sept 28, 2007 16:01:32 GMT -5
Great observation Ralph.
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Post by traplines on Jul 11, 2008 9:39:42 GMT -5
The ID of this picture has been bothering me. I know Jim is on the Right and I know Mary Sue say's her Granpa Emile is on the left. Take a look at the picture in TLN of Lindsay in his summer costume. Now put a piece of paper over his hair. Now look at the the guy on the left in the picture of the three of them. I think Lindsay's on the left, Emile is in the middle and I know Jim is on the right. What does everyone think. Look at the picture in TLN of Emile with his famous team of dogs. He doesn't look like a big man in that picture and neither does the middle guy in the pic of the three of them. Emile does look a little darker skinned in the book though but that could be just because of the light.
Russ
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Post by ralph on Sept 2, 2008 15:11:16 GMT -5
Russ, I agree, "the man on the left," bears a closer resemblance to Lindsay, than the "man in the middle." However, when I compare each facial feature, there seems to be a slight difference in each, for example, in the picture on the site, the left man is not smiling, and his mouth is pretty much a straight line. In the book photo, Lindsay with the 7' snowshoes, he is also not smiling, but his mouth is turned down slightly at the corners. Also, in the book photo, young Lindsay in summer costume, has obvious earlobes, whereas the left man does not have observable earlobes. In addition, comparing the noses, chin facial creases, etc, there are slight differences. Right now, I would have to say, close, but no ringer.
Sorry for the long delay in responding to your comments, but I had sent my copy of TLN to my grandson, and didn't have a book to look at. I just got another on from Amazon today, a first edition, signed by Meader with the notation, "This is Jane Avery's own copy of "Trap-Lines" inscribed by her good friend the author-- Stephen W. Meader
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Post by Matt (admin) on Sept 13, 2008 21:56:23 GMT -5
Is it possible that it's someone else entirely? Someone not even mentioned in the book? Jo Ann, any idea whether any other friend, associate, etc. might have accompanied them on the trapline at least a few years after the book.
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